Publication: Cape Argus Issued: Date: 2009-04-02 Reporter: Christelle Terreblanche Reporter: Angela Quintal

McCarthy Spy Tapes Surface

 

Publication 

Cape Argus

Date

2009-04-02

Reporter Christelle Terreblanche
Angela Quintal

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www.capeargus.co.za



A transcript showing that former Scorpions boss Leonard McCarthy's telephone calls were intercepted by police surfaced on Wednesday.

The transcript was part of a sworn statement by former airport security chief Paul O'Sullivan.

While there is no official confirmation that spy tapes allegedly showing a political plot behind the prosecution of ANC president Jacob Zuma forms part of his legal team's representations to get him off the hook, the latest affidavit gives credence to the existence of intercepted conversations.

However, it is still not clear whether the interception was legal or whether McCarthy was the subject of illegal tapping by the police.

The transcript of a 13-minute conversation McCarthy had with a colleague in October 2007, is annexed to O'Sullivan's affidavit signed on Wednesday.

It is part of O'Sullivan's latest attempt to ensure that criminal charges are investigated against senior police officers.

The affidavit and annexure was also e-mailed to the Office of the Inspector-General of Intelligence who earlier rejected a request by the Democratic Alliance to investigate the existence of the spy tapes and whether these were legally obtained.

According to the transcript of the conversation, McCarthy discusses with his colleague - believed to be Scorpions investigator Thanda Mngwengwe - how they should alert Scorpions Gauteng head Gerrie Nel to a police investigation into his conduct without unduly upsetting him.

The transcript has already been cited in another court case to show that the Scorpions were allegedly prepared to defeat the ends of justice.

The Mail and Guardian reported last month that the transcript was referred to in an affidavit by Gauteng deputy provincial commissioner Richard Mduli, in support of a Labour Court challenge by suspended Scorpions prosecutor Nomgcobo Jiba.

At the same time, the conversation centres on McCarthy's thoughts that the police were "playing" the Scorpions, saying that there was a strategy to unsettle the work of the unit and to "target certain people".

While Mduli alleged that senior NPA officials tried to frustrate and obstruct the police investigation into Nel, the full transcript of McCarthy's conversation - and NPA documents contained in Jiba's court papers - support a counter-allegation that there was a campaign to nail the prosecutor.

Jiba was suspended in 2007 after evidence emerged that she had helped the police in attempts to secure an arrest warrant for Nel - who is the lead prosecutor in the case against national police commissioner Jackie Selebi who was arrested, but the Pretoria Regional Court in January this year withdrew charges of corruption and defeating the ends of justice.

McCarthy in his last appearance before the National Assembly's justice committee in February last year, referred to the fact that Mngwengwe's cellphone was tapped, but he gave no indication that he knew his own calls were being tapped.

McCarthy - who resigned from the Scorpions to head the World Bank's anti-corruption unit in June 2008 - has not been available for comment.

A series of McCarthy's conversations with among others, former NPA boss Bulelani Ngcuka, as well as then president Thabo Mbeki, is alleged to be part of the evidence presented by Zuma's lawyers to the NPA, in an attempt to have charges dropped against him.

It is alleged these prove executive interference in the work of the NPA, although both Ngcuka and Mbeki, have denied the allegations.

Deputy national director of public prosecutions Willie Hofmeyr, and Scorpions head Sbongile Mzinyathi, travelled to Durban recently to listen to the recordings in possession of Zuma's lawyer Michael Hulley.

It is understood this convinced them that the NPA's case against Zuma was tainted and that the prosecution against him should not proceed.

NPA head Mokotedi Mpshe spent two days locked in meetings with the Zuma prosecuting team earlier this week to decide on the way forward.

The NPA is expected to announce tomorrow whether it will drop charges against Zuma or proceed with the prosecution.

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With acknowledgements to Christelle Terreblanche, Angela Quintal and Cape Argus.